Zfsd

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    Stephens, Jan 16, 2013

    The FreeNAS developers aren't developing zfsd. Google "zfsd" and you'll find what you want to know. Find out in which version of FreeBSD it appears, then wait for a FreeNAS based on that version of FreeBSD. I wouldn't expect it anytime soon.
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    Stephens, Jan 16, 2013

    Understood, but this is a FreeNAS forum. Why not ask on a FreeBSD forum if you understand it has to appear in FreeBSD first? Just a thought.
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    ben, Jan 16, 2013

    As noobsauce said. It won't be in any version of FreeNAS numbered 8.x, and the first 9.x is on the timeline with an indefinite date. Expect multiple 8.3.x point releases - maybe even an 8.4.x series - before 9.1 and zfsd come to freenas.
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    bernardc, Jan 16, 2013

    Ben,
    Thank you for the excellent answer.

    noobsauce80,
    Thank you for the link to the previous thread which did not show up on the very google search that Stephens proposed, and which I had previously pursued. The link alone would have been more than sufficient.

    You all can achieve your purposes much more efficiently if you can bring yourselves to delete the bad attitude. Every time I post I have to wear a flack jacket in anticipation of the blowback.
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    ProtoSD, Jan 16, 2013

    A lot of people don't realize that some of the developers of FreeNAS are also developers with FreeBSD and PCBSD (which iXsystems bought the license for).
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    cyberjock, Jan 16, 2013

    I agree, but flack jackets are so comfortable.

    Seriously, the only reason I even posted was to show that a 3 day old post had the same question... We're all quite sick of the same question being asked over and over. There's some changes coming and it looks like we may see some people

    The really crappy part of the story is that just from your first post you seemed to have a clue but still missed a 3 day old post. While I have no doubt you tried to search I'm curious why you didn't see it. Wrong keywords? Broken search engine? Didn't try hard enough? I don't know.....
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    bernardc, Jan 16, 2013

    noobsauce80,
    If you agree, why do you keep flaming me, Bro?
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    jgreco, Jan 17, 2013

    I'm going to point out that it wouldn't be completely unexpected for something important from FreeBSD to be backported to FreeNAS. From a development point of view, however, I would point out that zfsd is actually a trite term to refer to a much larger set of things going on, the actual "ZFS daemon" is not isolated, and it will be relying on kernel features and other system changes. So it's not a trivial upgrade like installing a new version of istgt or even samba.

    Sadly (at least for FreeNAS), the release cycles for FreeBSD in recent years have been somewhat slower and it seems unlikely that we would see FreeBSD 9.2 anytime in the next six or maybe even nine months. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FreeBSD#Timeline
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    ben, Jan 17, 2013

    jgreco I like your optimism. If we see a FreeBSD 9.2 before 2014 I'll be pleasantly surprised.
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    jgreco, Jan 17, 2013

    My optimism? I said what we were NOT likely to see. :) Though given the way things have worked lately, 2014 might be a little too pessimistic. Usually the .0 is followed by a dry spell as all the bugs that didn't fall out during beta are discovered and fixed. Then it isn't unusual for .2 and .3 to follow fairly quickly; 8.2->8.3 seems to be an anomaly. So I'll take "2013Q4" as my best guess.
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    ben, Jan 17, 2013

    We'll see. To be fair, 9.1 would have been done less than a year after 9.0 if it weren't for their package infrastructure being compromised. We don't actually know what release FreeBSD will target next - it could be 8.4 or 9.2, or even (in theory) 10.0. Support for 7.4 ends a month and a half from now, which may increase calls for a final/LTS 8.4 release, to be followed by 9.2 and then (presumably) 10.0. Watching FreeBSD's release cycle from the PC-BSD POV, it seems glacial, which is the main reason for my relative pessimism.
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    cyberjock, Jan 17, 2013

    I "flamed" you(if you want to call it that. I think of it more of showing you your own errors) before because you posted something like 3 or 4 threads in a bunch of different places to get an answer. The extras were deleted by a moderator.

    This thread because a post that was less than 3 days old had virtually the exact same question.

    If you read the Posting Guidelines it says:

    Then if you read the Forum Rules it says:

    I'm really not sure what is hard about those two...
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    bernardc, Jan 17, 2013

    noobsauce80,
    Your hypocrisy is remarkable. You pollute this forum with your own petty gripe. The purpose of the Forum Rules is to filter out the very type of post that you just made, which add zero value to anyone. They only serve to repel the ones who do have valuable information, such as ben and jgreco who were having a very interesting and valuable repartee before you just had to pipe up.

    In addition, your statements about my cross posting and deletions-by-moderator and completely false and scurrilous. I put a fair amount of thought into every one of my posts, including this one. Unlike you, I show respect for the community and offer thanks for their help. Your attempts to traduce me have no place in public discourse. Shame, shame on you.
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    cyberjock, Jan 17, 2013

    LOL! I'll consider myself "shamed" then. I am in error. My post wasn't that you were cross posting, its that you were asking an unrelated question in the thread. I'd post the forum rules again but there's one about trying to stick to the topic of the original post. If you have a new question then ask in a new thread. Makes it easier for searchers to identify with the topic of the thread than reading a whole boatload of threads just because it had their search term.

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